I think thats all you can do!!![/quote:13bb03vh] And then as you drive away I will slap a "F*ed Up Car!" bumper sticker on the back of the car. :twisted: Bill[/quote:13bb03vh] as long as it gets me some hp, I will be cool with that!!! LOL[/quote:13bb03vh] ...he says as he pulls away with the cheap tin can fart pipe noise classic of late 90's honduh civics... (don't get me wrong, I love the sound of most aftermarket exhaust, just not one that is rusted through in 10 different places...) Bill