2008 brakes

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RICERs....lets put a b16 head on my 420a block

 

Most average people will never be able to handle their car effectively enough to out handle their brake system. Most people don't really understand their vehicles capabilities they make a judgment error and it may cost them their life for that error in judgment, but the car can 9 times out of ten handle the problem, just the driver can not.

Though Taxman is correct you should be upgrading to a solid performance brakepad AND upgrading your brake fluid. In point of fact its probably more important to have better brake fluid than better brake pads. The more you can prevent the brake fluid from boiling the better it will allow the brake pads to perform.

Personally, I'd say upgrade to at least DOT4 if you don't have it stock or ATE Amber brake fluid. Then Akebono or Hawk performance brake pads. Really all in all its a cheap upgrade for anyone to do. A intake and exhaust is a mild enough upgrade and I wouldn't put new pads on my car with only those two modifications.

But what is it? $200 parts and labor at most for performance pads and fluid?

 

you should be kicked in the nuts insulting a mitsu product by putting on a honduh part!!!!!

 

HYPOCRITES FTW!!! =)

*edit* wat bra is saying is exactly what u just proved in the second post, there's no point really in upgrading ur brakes if you aren't going to be making ur car go faster, the safety rating on ur brakes are already categorized under "excelent"

 

Alright Captain, let me ask you this; What do most performace upgrades do?

a. Give you that flashy look that makes the girls heads turn?
b. Improve the performance of a vehicle?
c. Make your ego bigger because you just one-uped your friend?
d. Makes you omnipetent?

*hint* 99.99% of the true performance upgrades on the market INCREASE the performance of a vehicle. The translates to better track times which means you go....wait for it...wait for it... BINGO! You go faster. Therefore the correct answer is B; Improve the performance of a vehicle?

Thanks for playing. We'll see you next time.

 

ok ill admit....i lol'd a lil

 

a & d !!!!

did I win?


*omnipotent

 

i love how u just talk to urself about something that wasn't even commented on... talk about ego.....

as i was saying, you're the one saying that brakes are sooooooo important even if you don't have performance parts... yet when someone asks you if you have better brakes, u say you don't need it... so as i originally stated and i'll restate, ur simply a hypocrite... point to urself before you point at others... yes i agree that brakes are essential "if" you are going to be upgrading parts on your vehicle, but if not, there is no need for it seeing as your OEM brakes are rated "excelent" on stopping power

as for performance parts that do not make you go faster...

shocks
coilovers
springs
*suspension in general*
Soilers
wind splitters
roof scoops
hood scoops
*basically body parts*
brakes
short shifters

those are a lit of few off the top of my head that do NOT increase your speed but are performance parts as they help your car in their general "performance" which does not mean "speed"... and yes body parts in general are performance parts as they are meant to help with the aerodynamics of your car such as spoilers scoops etc. helps keep your car on the floor to compensate for the speed your going, not the opposite way around, to make your car faster....


so please do me a favor, if your gonna make an argument against someone, don't come up with a random topic that had nothing to do with what was said... there was a lot of fallacy in your argument... you didn't see me responding to your post sayiing "Turbos DO make your car go faster" cuz it has nothing to do w/ what u said... get my point?

 

Ok Sparky. Let me break this down for you.

shocks (Improves cornering ability which translates to quicker lap times.)
coilovers (Same as above)
springs (Same as above)
*suspension in general*
Soilers (Improves traction, which again, translates to quicker lap times)
wind splitters (Same as above)
roof scoops (WTF Seriously?!? You're such a ricer.)
hood scoops (Same as above)
*basically body parts*
brakes (the .01%)
short shifters (Decreases deadtime between shifts, which translates to quicker lap/ 1/4 mile times)

Do me, and everyone else a favor - Just please stop talking.

noobs... :roll:

 

Forgive me oh Goderator... And yes, you did. You always do oh Goderator...

 

Cosmetic modifications and suspension modifications DO NOT increase the amount of horsepower a vehicle puts to pavement. They may as you state decrease a vehicles lap times, but the horsepower has not increased.

Some cosmetic mods as we all know alter the vehicles drag coefficient which may allow the vehicle to be faster, but still the horsepower has not increased.

The bottom line is with cosmetic modifications (except upsized wheels and tires does it require modification to your brake system. In all you should be utilizing the proper following and stopping distance recommendations when driving anyways.

In any case arguing about this is doing nothing to further said topic so lets just all move on.

 

Ok Sparky. Let me break this down for you.

shocks (Improves cornering ability which translates to quicker lap times.) - but does not make you faster which is what we're arguing
coilovers (Same as above) - same as above
springs (Same as above) - same as above
*suspension in general* - same as above
Soilers (Improves traction, which again, translates to quicker lap times) - same as above
wind splitters (Same as above) - same as above
roof scoops (WTF Seriously?!? You're such a ricer.) - has been proven to improve down force so it "is" a performance part as it improves performance
hood scoops (Same as above) - same as above
*basically body parts* - same as above
brakes (the .01%) - if it's only .01% then name the other 9,999 parts that are performance parts
short shifters (Decreases deadtime between shifts, which translates to quicker lap/ 1/4 mile times) - same as shocks

Do me, and everyone else a favor - Just please stop talking. - i think you should take your own advice

noobs... :roll: - ya tell me about it :roll:[/quote:3vsax1ks]

quicker lap time but do not increase your "speed" do not make you "faster" your top speed is still the "same" wow... ur car is faster because it can take a sharper turn? please explain that... your car will "NOT" be faster, ur max speed remains the same... i had to say this twice cuz ur still not getting it... just do me a favor and stop digging your grave, ur wrong and everyone knows it... people like u just make me go... -_- ... think you know it all when in fact... u don't know shit :-\

read the edits in ur quote...

and for RedGalant2k1, i'll make this the last post directed towards thetaxguy

btw, the reason i mentioned only Spoilers and scoops, are not because they decrease the drag coefficient (they don't) it's because they add to down force which doesn't increase speed, it just keeps the wheel on the floor... so as i said, it's a performance part that doesn't make you faster

 

the oem brake system was designed for the use of oem tire/rims. any upgrades to bigger sized tires and heavier rims on oem brakes will increase stopping distance and it has been proven on the typical car shows like motor trend, unique whips, nopi and the likes.

 

so if i were to get bigger heavier rims would i need atleast better rotors n pads?

 

Exactly what I was saying, the only cosmetic modification (upsized wheels and tires) is the one the it is strongly suggested to upgrade your brakes.

For most applications yes improved (factory size) pads and rotors are more than adequate.

 

Ok Sparky. Let me break this down for you.

shocks (Improves cornering ability which translates to quicker lap times.) - but does not make you faster which is what we're arguing
coilovers (Same as above) - same as above
springs (Same as above) - same as above
*suspension in general* - same as above
Soilers (Improves traction, which again, translates to quicker lap times) - same as above
wind splitters (Same as above) - same as above
roof scoops (WTF Seriously?!? You're such a ricer.) - has been proven to improve down force so it "is" a performance part as it improves performance
hood scoops (Same as above) - same as above
*basically body parts* - same as above
brakes (the .01%) - if it's only .01% then name the other 9,999 parts that are performance parts
short shifters (Decreases deadtime between shifts, which translates to quicker lap/ 1/4 mile times) - same as shocks

Do me, and everyone else a favor - Just please stop talking. - i think you should take your own advice

noobs... :roll: - ya tell me about it :roll:[/quote:16z8oxal]

quicker lap time but do not increase your "speed" do not make you "faster" your top speed is still the "same" wow... ur car is faster because it can take a sharper turn? please explain that... your car will "NOT" be faster, ur max speed remains the same... i had to say this twice cuz ur still not getting it... just do me a favor and stop digging your grave, ur wrong and everyone knows it... people like u just make me go... -_- ... think you know it all when in fact... u don't know shit :-\

read the edits in ur quote...

and for RedGalant2k1, i'll make this the last post directed towards thetaxguy

btw, the reason i mentioned only Spoilers and scoops, are not because they decrease the drag coefficient (they don't) it's because they add to down force which doesn't increase speed, it just keeps the wheel on the floor... so as i said, it's a performance part that doesn't make you faster[/quote:16z8oxal]

I'm going to pull the short yellow bus around for you... Because, damn you are stupid!

You mean to tell me that if it takes a shorter amount of time to cover the same ground (in this case a lap as drag racing takes into consider 60', rt, etc.) that you are not going faster???

Ok listen up Champ; if you take two identical vehicles except for the suspension and put them into a head-to-head shoot out, the vehicle with the upgraded suspension will have a faster time (granted that both drivers are of the same ability). This has NOTHING to do with horsepower, or top speed. Sure, those two vehicle with on an infinitely long road will have the same top speed...but so what? Who cares, as the possibility of that happening is close to nil. However, if you put a series of turns on the road, the vehicle with the upgraded suspension will be able to break later and take the turn faster.

Breaking 101: Breaking later causes higher temperatures to exist as the two bodies are being exposed to greater pressure.

Having an upgraded breaking system (pads, caliper, fluid...) will allow the vehicle to perform better. Not once did I state that you only need to upgrade the system if you increase hp. What I said is that the breaks should be upgraded if you drive aggressively.

Let me quote myself:

Let me say it again because you are not getting it: Damn you are stupid. Did it sink in this time? Of course not…

 

Akebono and Hawk make great brake pads

 

i doubt it because.....

lmao. a whole 2 pages of discussion on Brakes