EVO X

^ They will be making a CVT version in March. I have sources

 

^ Ok Chet, your right the EVO X will not have a CVT.

Source :

The Evolution X will not have a Continuously Variablt Transmission. There will likely be a 5 or 6-speed manual and a paddleshifted Dual-Clutch semi-automatic manual. We believe the dual-clutch system is going to be very sporting.

So, the Dual-Clutch will be like the same as CVT?

 

^ I'm 19, I don't care, send me the fricken beer. I've had beer b4.

 

Ok, I got it. After the EVO X comes out, they will make a Evolution MR that will be like triptronic but it's sportronic meaning will be manually and automatic.

 

its actually called the GSR and it has Twin-Clutch tranny

 

^ meaning i could use it as an automatic ?

 

yes, go look at the ralliart pix i posted and the one with the cf shifter is actually the shifter for the evo x gsr

 

^ alright, just did, nice pics and sweet ima get myself the evo x!

 

^ lol get off the drugs....

 

yeah u guys drifted a bit but i thought it had useful info and deserved its own tread.

 

^:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

 

^ lol

 

Ok to answer questions about the trannys:

Evo X will have the GSR - initially only a 5 speed manual and the MR - initially disigned to only have the Dual Clutch. More than likely a 6 speed will be thrown in for the MR later and the dual will migrate down to the GSR (maybe for another year).

The difference between the Dual Clutch Trans and the CVT is a major component and usage mentality and engineering design.

The CVT is designed to continuously vary (as the name implies) the trans gearing to optimize performance to fuel efficiency. The manual sport mode in a CVT is nothing more than an electronic memory of approximately what RPM/Speed each gear would have (assuming the car was a traditional manual/automatic) and applying that to the engine dynamics through the ECUs controls of the fuel/air ratio and the ratio at with the gearing teeth align within the CVT. That way, the car "feels" more sporty and gains a marginal performance boost by letting that engine and trans most effectively use the pre-set electronic gearing within the ECU memory.

The Dual Clutch Trans design is a completely different beast. As many have stated, it is comparable to the DSG style trans that are used by VW/Audi in there vehicles. This trans uses two different and independent clutch plates (instead of the traditional 1 found in a standard auto and manuals) to allow for the trans to more quickly and efficiently cycle through the cars mechanically established gearing. When one clutch is engaged in changing the gear, the other is already prepping for the next gear shift. This provides increased torque through the power band as well as allows for the shifts to come quickly to make the most of the RPMs at their peak intervals. The Manual mode of this trans basically allows for the driver to determine when these clutch plates engage in the system. Unlike how the CVT simulates the gear by electronically guessing and estimating the RPMs to match the subsequent gear you put it in, the Dual Clutch design really does put it in that gear. It just gives you the more true performance benefit through the mechanics of the engine and tranny. Futhermore, it allows for the higher performance of the engine to not be wasted on missed shifts and things of that nature.

Bill

 

Ok to answer questions about the trannys:

Evo X will have the GSR - initially only a 5 speed manual and the MR - initially disigned to only have the Dual Clutch. More than likely a 6 speed will be thrown in for the MR later and the dual will migrate down to the GSR (maybe for another year).

The difference between the Dual Clutch Trans and the CVT is a major component and usage mentality and engineering design.

The CVT is designed to continuously vary (as the name implies) the trans gearing to optimize performance to fuel efficiency. The manual sport mode in a CVT is nothing more than an electronic memory of approximately what RPM/Speed each gear would have (assuming the car was a traditional manual/automatic) and applying that to the engine dynamics through the ECUs controls of the fuel/air ratio and the ratio at with the gearing teeth align within the CVT. That way, the car "feels" more sporty and gains a marginal performance boost by letting that engine and trans most effectively use the pre-set electronic gearing within the ECU memory.

The Dual Clutch Trans design is a completely different beast. As many have stated, it is comparable to the DSG style trans that are used by VW/Audi in there vehicles. This trans uses two different and independent clutch plates (instead of the traditional 1 found in a standard auto and manuals) to allow for the trans to more quickly and efficiently cycle through the cars mechanically established gearing. When one clutch is engaged in changing the gear, the other is already prepping for the next gear shift. This provides increased torque through the power band as well as allows for the shifts to come quickly to make the most of the RPMs at their peak intervals. The Manual mode of this trans basically allows for the driver to determine when these clutch plates engage in the system. Unlike how the CVT simulates the gear by electronically guessing and estimating the RPMs to match the subsequent gear you put it in, the Dual Clutch design really does put it in that gear. It just gives you the more true performance benefit through the mechanics of the engine and tranny. Futhermore, it allows for the higher performance of the engine to not be wasted on missed shifts and things of that nature.

Bill

 

Thanks Bill.