lowering springs

at any drops, you'd have to replace your shocks either way. the stock shocks are set up to withhold the stock springs' spring rate. changing the rate will affect your shocks therefore to blow at any time depending on how bad the road is. i.e. potholes, speedbumps, etc... just a little fyi :wink:

 

You dont have to change your shocks immediately, but you are gonna kill them quicker with springs... I would go with the Teins if you want a noticeable drop.. ive seen all the other springs in action and most of the time you cant notice the drop. I have the Teins and i am extremely happy with them.... they are very stiff though, so if you go thru a lot of speedbumps or potholes, you ARE gonna feel them a lot more than now. I dont mind that cause ive have lowered cars my whole life and i know how to drive with them....

but IMO, teins all the way...

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eKtor does have one sickest drops on the lancers + the all blacked out stealthy jet like sleeper look its just sexy!

 

I have megan coilovers on mines. I actually use mine for the track. They are very versatile and helpful on the corners, when standing still it has just the right amount of drop. I have 1.5 drop all around and 2 degrees camber.

 

how much exactly would it be to replace the shocks??

 

this is what alot of people think, howere it isnt true........ if the company that makes the springs knows what they are doing they will use a shock dyno to know what the correct spring rate is so that they will save the shocks. when we built our RRM grip springs they where shock dynoed for maximum shock longevity and performance as well as ride comfort.

here is my take on all the options, we have had the RRM grip spring, Tein s techs and Tein coilover on our car shop car, we help with all of the lancer product devolpment for Tein, we tell them what we think and they change accordingly.

RRM GRIP- excellent daily driver spring that will treat your shock like it has a stock spring- great value

Tein S-Tech- decent spring for looks, more of a drop them RRM, but ride comfort is no were near the same- high price for a spring

Tein Basic Coilover- not yet released in the states but i am in love with the ride and the handling- expensive

 

Built your RRM springs??? i could have sworn and have heard many times on this forum that you guys use Progress Technology's ($179) springs... same exact spring rates 175 and same drop 1.5 front 1.4 rear, look exactly the same... just seems weird to me.

I'll give it to you the tein spring ride is wack when it comes to bumps. but the drop is better due to their progressive spring design. the question is does RRM springs perform better than Tein springs? thats an apples to apples comparision and will need an UNbiased opinion on. aka not from a vendor... Chances are that the Tein springs will perform better considering its lower center of gravity and their claim to work with OEM springs.

Also, Tein springs cost more because it costs more to create progressive springs rather than the linear springs (OEM = 1 spring rate). Does the RRM springs have more than 1 spring rate?....

This is just my opinion and I would like to direct my fellow forum member to his own decision not motivated by a 3rd party source.

 

I dont think he meant Tein built there springs, there springs are built by Progress. He means they helped Tein develop their (Tein's) springs. And really he says they give Tein input on what they want or what they think people wany pretty much.

I personally would go with RRM's if I were to drop my car at the moment, but my reasoning is becuase I cannot have too agressive a drop because of where I live (many dips) and my driveway (will probably scrape with RRM springs). Thats why I havent purchased them yet. But I really rather have coilovers so I have the option of adjusting but I cannot afford to spend that much money to drop my car. Now keep in mind that is just my preference, you probably have different factors to consider in your choice.

 

you got it all wrong. re-read BrianRRM's entry. word for word:

"when we built our RRM grip springs they where shock dynoed for maximum shock longevity and performance as well as ride comfort."

he should have said when "progress built" with RRM's suggestions (possibly but doubtful considering progress a totally separate company and have their own engineers). I personally should have went with PROGRESS technology springs as well considering i have bumpy roads in the NJ. if you drive mostly highway the Tein springs are the way to go due to the added appearance and performance. what kills me is that RRM sells their springs $20 more than on Autocityimports and not even considering the $15 dollar discount provided by autocity...

 

I think there is a misunderstanding here lol.

Sounded to me like RRM gives tein some suggestions whenever they are working on Lancers so they gave suggestions when they (Tein) were designing their springs.

When it comes to RRM springs that I know of they did alot of the engineering work with progress when it came to actually designing their (RRM) springs. I was on a different forum when they were released and was really interested in them back then. Progress is the company that manufactures them for RRM.

 

whenever tein devolps parts for the lancers and suzukis, they use our cars and our feedback, we normally get a set of prototype springs and then we test them in real world situations as well as track applications. i wasnt trying to sling our parts i was just trying to inform that it isnt nessary to change the shocks with the use of tein or RRM lowering springs, please dont twist my words.

 

its recommended to change your shocks at 50-60k anyway because your shocks get a ballpark amt of 200 bumps a min

tein suggested to me to go with aftermarket struts like kyb but they will be stiffer, and stiffer means rough ride? correct me if i'm wrong

 

i have a set of tein s tech springs had them on for a while no problems with shocks never have i had a civic si befor also with s techs on it no problems there either a after market spring is just a slightly shorter higher spring rate thats all , and a spring is basicly just there to set ride hight the shock is there for rebound serve different task the only way to ruin you shocks would be to cut or heat your stock spings were your sring rate will remain the same not allowing you shock the support it needs therfore working overtime therfore weraring out faster but still will work for at least a few mounths

 

When people have to ask me if my car is lowered, and they are not sure if it is or not, that is a huge deal for me... thats why i went with teins cause they are the only ones that you can tell from a mile away that the car is lowered. BUT my daily comute is an hour a day and the biggest bump/hole is my drive way, and i know how to drive through it. for people that have bumps and stuff then i guess they would need other springs.... teain a stiff as fvck, so bumps nad stuff are very harsh, but thats why i love them... doing 80+ on them feels like heaven... and if you have bad roads, potholes are always avoidable speed bumps and driveways, you just have to learn how to drive a lowered car over them

if you want a noticeable bad ass drop with stiff, performance driven feel, tein [btw, the teains you can get them for $210 shipped, so i dont know why brian calls them expensive]
if you want comfort and ride quality then i guess you can go with the GRIPS... but last time i checked, performance modding a car was not about comfort...